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Today I’m excited to welcome Professor J. Norman Baldwin to The Quarter Life Comeback podcast.

J. Norman Baldwin is a professor of political science at the University of Alabama, where he has served as director of Graduate Programs, Undergraduate Programs, and the master of the Public Administration Program.

Despite having leadership skills stuffed into every business course he taught, Baldwin discovered that most of his students didn’t want to be leaders. And for the few who did, it would be years before they could use any of what he was teaching.

The truth is, the vast majority students enter the work force as entry level employees; followers, not leaders.

In our fast-paced, competitive society, leaders get all the glory. There are conferences and courses you can take and hundreds of books you can read on how to be a leader, how to be a better leader, and why everyone should strive for leadership. But leadership isn’t for everyone.

In fact, the majority of the roles we fill in our lifetime are those of a follower. Which is why it’s a little strange that there is a desperate shortage of material teaching us on how to be good at it.

Professor Baldwin tackles that area of need in his new book Winning at Following: Secrets to Success in Supporting Roles, where he also addresses the harmful myth that being a follower equates to a lack of success or satisfaction.


  • Why we’re not all meant to be leaders
  • Why we’ve become obsessed with leadership vs supporting roles
  • What to do if you don’t feel fulfilled
  • The critical ingredients for finding job satisfaction
  • What research shows are the best and worst jobs
  • Is it possible to be a follower and still make an impact?
  • The top 3 qualities of great followers
  • How to find an employer that fits your followership style


Finally, you can hang out with Professor Baldwin on the various social media channels below:

Website | Email


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Intro by Daniella Pellegrini | Music Credit: CharlestheFirst – Letting Go